No, it’s usually how you say it, though some things are inherently jerky. It is not just the manner of saying things that riles people up, but also having their deepest beliefs baldly challenged as false. That one’s much easier! Really easy, actually. What is the non-jerky way to say that gods don’t exist? You are stating your opinion about definitions. At the very least, you aren’t directly telling them that they’re lying or deluded. I mean, you may still come off as kind of a jerk, as that’s a pretty ignorant and jerky opinion, but that’s the least jerky way to say it. “I believe that gender and sex are one and the same and that gender is both binary and immutable.” What is the non-jerky way to say transwomen are men? But, we’re not there yet, and Elon has no solution for that problem.įiled Under: bias, content moderation, elon musk, politics, social media, yishan wong The world would be a better place if people didn’t group up and become bigger and bigger assholes on social media. You can scream to heaven as loud as you want that your personal view on some controversial topic is the “right” one, or that you should be allowed to scream it, but if it’s creating a huge mess and causing more people to go even crazier, at some point, the website is going to cut you off. And it might just be that it was being presented in a manner that was driving people crazy and causing more bad behavior. And no matter which “example” you name, I guarantee you, there’s another explanation for why that person or that piece of content was banned. The idea that there’s some grand conspiracy among these companies to silence this or that group is just not true. They just want people to stop being assholes all the time, and they’d like you to act nicer to one another, and they really, really, really want to treat people fairly. The underlying concept, though, remains absolutely true. However, in the eight years since he left, the whole trust & safety space has evolved significantly, and grown and professionalized to the point that many of the companies actually do have “real principles” that they use to set up their content moderation rules and enforcement.
There was a period of time when that was true - around the same time that Yishan was still at Reddit. They are just trying to be fair because if they weren't, everyone would yell LOUDER and the problem would be worse. Let me tell you: There are no real principles. They have to pretend to enforce fairness. They would like you (the users) to stop squabbling over stupid shit and causing drama so that they can spend their time writing more features and not have to adjudicate your stupid little fights.Īnd, so, as he notes, if you don’t want to get moderated, stop being a jackass:īut the platforms have to be polite. He says it’s about not “squabbling” but the squabbling is a result of people acting like jackasses, and it escalates. While slightly simplified from reality, he notes that the people making these decisions just want you to behave and stop being a jackass. I talk a bit about this in my thread about Omega Events: They really don’t.ĭonald Trump was not de-platformed for being right-wing. The key point that Yishan made (and which I also made in my post last week) is that many, many of the people in these companies - both at the executive decision making level and working on content moderation or trust & safety - don’t care about your politics and don’t want to touch your content.
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And no one’s been able to solve those ever, and a guy building rockets doesn’t magically know how to fix those kinds of problems. What you’re trying to solve for with content moderation is human nature and societal level problems. He has no idea.” That’s because almost everyone - especially techies - assume there’s some simple solution to the content moderation challenge. I’m not going to go through the whole thing, but did want to point out some key points that are worth repeating.Īs he starts out the thread noting, if Elon does take over Twitter “he is in for a world of pain.
Last week, about the same time I posted by giant post on all the things that Elon Musk didn’t understand about content moderation, former Reddit CEO Yishan Wong posted a really long, but completely worth reading thread about content moderation on social networks. Mon, Apr 18th 2022 12:13pm - Mike Masnick
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